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Bar Minan" (Hebrew - בר מינן ) [ bahr-mee-nahn ] is a Sephardic Jewish saying which literally translates to "far from us", or "except us".1 This expression is used when referring to a certain mishap or calamity which one is discussing that he wishes not to befall on himself. One could say, for example, "a man whose children died, bar minan, is exempt." The expression is very similar to other Hebrew sayings such as, "Chas VeShalom" and "Lo Alenu". The first time the term appears in any text is in the Shut (responsa) of Rabbenu Gereshom Me'or HaGolah (960-1040 CE) about how a person should act if he becomes a mourner on Purim, Bar Minan .2It is also used by the Rosh and various other Rishonim such as the Radbaz , Rivash , Ritva (Shut), Ran (Shut), Rabbi Yosef Albo , and the Shiboleh Haleket.3(There is also a claim that the words "בר מינך," which are similar to בר מינן, except they mean "far from you ", appear somewhere in Onkelus' Targum of Sefer Vayikra, but it has yet to be found.) It is also appropriate to use this expression when referring to a certain person, place or thing which is considered bad or wrong in Judaism.4Especially when speaking English, the phrase has started to become used much more loosely. "Bar Minan" in this context, is most commonly used by Persian Jewish communities in New York , especially those of the Great Neck Jewish community. Contrary to what some may think, this is a perfectly acceptable usage of the word even in modern day English. שו ת רבינו גרשום מאור הגולה סימן לג5
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"Bar Minan" (Hebrew - בר מינן ) [ bahr-mee-nohn ] is a Sephardic Jewish saying which literally translates to "far from us" or "except us." This expression is used when referring to a certain mishap or calamity which one is discussing that he wishes not to befall on himself. One could say, for example, "a man whose children died, bar minan, is exempt." The expression is very similar to other Hebrew sayings such as, "Chas VeShalom" and "Lo Alenu". The first time the term appears in any text is in the Shut (responsa) of Rabbenu Gereshom Me'or HaGolah (960-1040 CE) about how a person should act if he becomes a mourner on Purim, Bar Minan. It is also used by the Rosh and various other Rishonim such as the Radbaz , Rivash , Ritva (Shut), Ran (Shut), Rabbi Yosef Albo , and the Shiboleh Haleket. (The words "בר מינך," which are similar to בר מינן, except it means "far from you ", appear in various places in Onkelus' Targum Al HaTorah, but in different context.) It is also appropriate to use this expression when referring to a certain person, place or thing which is considered bad or wrong in Judaism .Or, one may refer to an inappropriate place as a "Bar Minan" place. שו"ת רבינו גרשום מאור הגולה סימן לג
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A Sephardic Jewish saying Bar Minan (Hebrew - בר מינן ) is a Sephardic Jewish saying which literally translates to "far from us" or "except us." This expression is used when referring to a certain mishap or calamity which one is discussing that he wishes not to befall on himself. One could say, for example, "a man whose children died, bar minan, is exempt." The first time the term appears in any text is in the Shut ( responsa ) of Gershom ben Judah about how a person should act if he becomes a mourner on Purim, Bar Minan. It is also used by Asher ben Jehiel and various other rishonim such as the David ben Solomon ibn Abi Zimra , Isaac ben Sheshet , Yom Tov Asevilli (Shut), Nissim of Gerona (Shut), Yosef Albo , and the Shibbole ha-Leḳeṭ . It is also appropriate to use this expression when referring to a certain person, place or thing which is considered bad or wrong in Judaism. Or, one may refer to an inappropriate place as a "Bar Minan" place. שו"ת רבינו גרשום מאור הגולה סימן לג
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Sephardic Jewish saying Bar Minan (Hebrew - בר מינן ) is a Sephardic Jewish saying which literally translates to "far from us" or "except us." This expression is used when referring to a certain mishap or calamity which one is discussing that he wishes not to befall on himself. One could say, for example, "a man whose children died, bar minan, is exempt." The first time the term appears in any text is in the Shut ( responsa ) of Gershom ben Judah about how a person should act if he becomes a mourner on Purim, Bar Minan. It is also used by Asher ben Jehiel and various other rishonim such as the David ben Solomon ibn Abi Zimra , Isaac ben Sheshet , Yom Tov Asevilli (Shut), Nissim of Gerona (Shut), Yosef Albo , and the Shibbole ha-Leḳeṭ . It is also appropriate to use this expression when referring to a certain person, place or thing which is considered bad or wrong in Judaism. Or, one may refer to an inappropriate place as a "Bar Minan" place. שו"ת רבינו גרשום מאור הגולה סימן לג
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Sephardic Jewish saying Bar Minan (Hebrew - בר מינן Hebrew pronunciation: [ˈbar miˈnan] ) is a Sephardic Jewish saying which literally translates to "far from us" or "except us." This expression is used when referring to a certain mishap or calamity which one is discussing that he wishes not to befall on himself. One could say, for example, "a man whose children died, bar minan, is exempt." The first time the term appears in any text is in the Shut ( responsa ) of Gershom ben Judah about how a person should act if he becomes a mourner on Purim, Bar Minan. It is also used by Asher ben Jehiel and various other rishonim such as David ben Solomon ibn Abi Zimra , Isaac ben Sheshet , Yom Tov Asevilli (Shut), Nissim of Gerona (Shut), Yosef Albo , and the Shibbole ha-Leḳeṭ . It is also appropriate to use this expression when referring to a certain person, place or thing which is considered bad or wrong in Judaism. Or, one may refer to an inappropriate place as a "Bar Minan" place. שו"ת רבינו גרשום מאור הגולה סימן לג
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